Send letter with two cents postage because thou does not live within United States


Thou does not live in United States and here’s the way to test it. (More specifically, thou lives in an American State that is part of the USofA union that differs from United States.)

Send a letter to thy home or to a friend and follow the rules laid out below – such as putting Non-Domestic on the from and to.

It’s possible to send letters with only two cents postage within a state or between states because this is considered Without United States. 

The rate for the states has not been raised in 50 years!

Letters sent within and between the states is non-domestic (in the eyes of the federal government), because domestic means federal land and territory, when stated by the federal government. Domestic mail means without United States.

  • Domestic mail costs 55 cents. – Federal land and territories
  • Non-domestic letters costs two cents. – within and between each of the 50 states.

This is because the postage (and laws) of United States do not apply to Virginia or any of the other states. The laws of United States apply to the territories. Domestic does not mean Virginia or any of the other states.

To prove this, we send letters with two cents postage from one state to another or within a state. The letter below was sent from Nevada to Virginia with two cents of postage. Via the post office, through the mail slot. Real deal. No deception. No evasion.

Envelope with four cents of stamps - postmarked. Says non-domestic and without united states.

Scroll down to see the seven key things to do to stay non-domestic, without United States.

United States does not mean United States of America. United States is primarily three things.

    1. the territories (Guam, Puerto Rico, District of Columbia)
    2. the federal land within each of the 50 states (the land for the Pentagon)
    3. the federal government itself (the offices, bases, embassies)

The blue boxed area is United States. The blue-boxed area has different postage (and different laws), all of which do not apply to the 50 states. The postage for United States does not apply to Virginia, etc.

  • To send from one federal area to another, meaning within the blue box: 55 cents. e.g. to send from Guam to Puerto Rico: 55 cents.
  • But to send from Arizona to Virginia: 3 cents (i use four cents).


I use four cents since I’m a big spender. Some people say it’s two cents while others say three, so that’s why I use four cents.

  1. Send from the letter slot at the post office!
  2. Do not use Zip codes – these codes are used by the federal government to map its territories and federal land within each of the 50 states. I’m sure Walmart and Amazon have company codes to map and designate their vast amounts of holdings and fulfillment centers.
  3. Spell out the state name: Virginia, Texas, Utah. Do not use letter-combinations such CA and NY. These refer to federal areas within California and New York. If sending to a non-domestic, non-federal location, don’t use the abbreviations. NY does not mean New York! Technically, NY is not an abbreviation for New York. NY means the federal enclaves within New York (state).
  4. Do not use any abbreviations. Spell out street, avenue, and all other words.
  5. Write Non-Domestic beneath the return location and the to;  location. And by the stamps.
  6. Write Without United States at bottom of letter and to the left of stamps
  7. If using this for trade, then write don’t say it’s commerce. I have not tested this. But know that commerce is on the water! (mer means sea in French). so if a business sends from one state to another, not on water, this is not commerce, in my opinion. Trade is on the land. Commerce is on the waterways.


My Name
123 West My Street
New York, New York

without United States


321 East Your Street
Dallas, Texas
Without United States

Letter showing the rules stated above.

The law

This law has never been updated, evidently.

bk 12 statutes at large chapter 71 section 23

snippet from statutes at large

Nothing here implies the postage rate does not apply to letters for trade (not commerce/seas).

Note how they describe the ‘mails of the United States”. Mail is something specific to United States. Sending a letter is different.

We will send thee a letter! – for $3

We will send thee a letter with two stamps postage as proof. The fee is $3 – for our time, not for the postage.

Pay $3 here:

Add thy location in the memo field. For questions, post below or write to guide @ — remove the spaces.

Additional Info

The federal government (United States) speaks to people and corporations which it controls. These are the people who work for the government and the people who live on the territories. So it focuses on the rules that apply to these people. These people send letters domestically, and the postage cost is 55.

We have been mistakenly thinking we (1) either work for the federal government or (2) live in a territory.

One final point: this is about more than postage. This is about status–political status. Laws within United States are different from laws without United States.

So have some fun. Learn something new. Send a friend a letter for two or four cents.

More thoughts:

  • After reading the law, it reminds me of the difference between driving and traveling. Sending a letter within United States is part of the ‘mail’ while sending a letter without United States is using a carrier. It’s not mail. Similarly, if one is not using a car for commerce, then it’s not driving, it’s traveling. Words have consequences!
  • Another word for this area is…domestic. Domestic does not mean USA vs. France. Domestic means areas under federal control; federal land. Oregon is non-domestic. Federal land within Oregon is domestic. And the postage within United States–the domestic zone–is 55 cents. The United States does not include Virginia, Oregon, or any other of the 50 states.
  • Arizona and Virginia are without United States. They are non-domestic. They are part of the union called The United States of America, but they are not part of United States. How could they be? Arizona is not federal territory.
  • Postage for non-domestic letters, that is Without the United States is two or three cents per 1/2 ounce.
  • Because they never raised the price of non-domestic letters, since no one knows it exists. It’s the same price from possibly 1970…
  • For more context, this letter is not using addresses. An ‘address’ is a location in the federal zone! I know this is hard to get at first. But every darn word is related to the federal zone: the territories and the federal government buildings and land.
  • Know that you do NOT have an ‘address’. An address is a location in the United States. Yes, that’s what ‘address’ means, in their policy book.
  • Something can be without United States but within United States of America. In one of the founding documents, it is called, “United States, in Congress Assembled”. Or just “United States” for short.
  • See also these perjury statements for within and without United States.
  • The United States is separate and foreign to the 50 states.
  • Note, three-cent stamps may be necessary, as stated here. Try sending with two cents and also separately with three cents.
  • So, stay without United States when mailing a letter and save a bit of money and have some fun and learn something. Comment below!!!

Mail versus Drop Letters

  • “Mail” is letter sent through the ‘mails’ of United States (meaning federal govt, DC, PR and other territories)
  • “Drop letters’ are letters sent without United States but within The United States of America, meaning within one of the 50 (nation) states or between them

The word drop may have something to do with that we must drop the letters into the slot of the post office. Not sure.

Within USofA but without United States

In a related example, here is an important perjury section of the U.S. Code that explains how to sign if related to matters without (not connected to) the United States but still under the laws of the United States of America.

  1. If executed without the United States: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury under the laws of the United States of America that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date).(Signature)”.

  2. If executed within the United States, its territories, possessions, or commonwealths: “I declare (or certify, verify, or state) under penalty of perjury that the foregoing is true and correct. Executed on (date).(Signature)”.

Men or women can send letters without the united states but still be under/within the United States of America.

i was afraid at first, now not a big deal

Before I really knew that my state is a nation-state, that United States is just the territories and federal land, i was a little nervous about sending a letter with four cents. But once I saw what was really going on, i dropped letters in the box slot with full knowledge that I was actually doing the right thing by not using the ‘mails’ of the United States (territories). Who am I to use their mail channels? I send drop letters without United States.

Opposing View from 1998

From an article about this topic. I think this misses the point that if one follows the rules above, the postage is two cents. If not, then the postage is 55 cents.

  • “The now-defunct regulation said that postage for first-class mail weighing two ounces or less was 2 cents plus the regular rate, which was 6 cents at the time.
  • “It never said it was OK to use 2-cent stamps,” Hudson said.
  • “They’re misrepresenting a law that’s obsolete,” he said. “I would classify what they’re doing as downright nasty. People think they can get something for nothing, but we hope to bring some legal action against them.”




3 comments on “Send letter with two cents postage because thou does not live within United States

  1. Hi are you the same man who wrote Without Prejudice 1-207?
    He wrote and used the word Thee a lot in that book. I like the
    book and I got 2 copies. I tried to go to the websight in the book but it
    has been hijacked to a porn sight.


    1. i am not the same man. i first heard language with ‘thou’ on a tour of Underground Railroad sites and the many people of the Quaker faith who helped. The Quakers use ‘thou’ and ‘thee’, as portrayed in films at the historical sites.

      ‘You’ is always ‘You are’ and ‘are’ is always plural, so ‘You’ is always plural. It cannot make sense to have ‘you are’ mean BOTH singular and plural. The people who devised this deception must be laughing at us.

    2. I ordered the book. It was an executive order! I ordered Amazon to send me the book. I said “that’s an order!” 🙂

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