Roger Sayles and the 14th Amendment

Roger Sayles said the 14th Amendment, passed in the mid-1800s, was actually a set up for action 80 years later. I expect he means that since the 14th Amendment applies to persons, it is the corporate persons people started using in the 1930s. The corporate entity is listed on the birth certificate, which people think applies to the flesh-and-blood, but really is a certificate for a U.S. person/corporate entity.

The 14th Amendment applies to persons born or naturalized in the United States. That United States is the District of Columbia and federal territories and possessions. It’s not the 50 states of the Union or ‘The United States of America’. The people who were formerly enslaved were not born or naturalized in the United States (District of Columbia). They were born either in their home countries or in one of the states of the Union. The 14th Amendment does not apply to them.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Continue

Note that the 13th Amendment does apply to people enslaved in the states of the Union. The 13th amendment talks about the United States in the plural form, written as ‘their jurisdiction’.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

In contrast, the 14th Amendment refers the United States in a singular sense, meaning the District of Columbia or the Federal Government, and separately refers to the states. The persons referred to in 14th amendment are corporate persons created by ‘United States’.

are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside

Obviously something created by United States is subject to United States.


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